1 00:00:52,559 --> 00:01:05,030 houston columbia for rendezvous 2 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:10,149 go ahead for a round of it 3 00:01:13,270 --> 00:01:11,830 bill we've been talking over the 4 00:01:15,109 --> 00:01:13,280 situation 5 00:01:16,630 --> 00:01:15,119 here with uh possible contingency 6 00:01:19,670 --> 00:01:16,640 rendezvous today 7 00:01:21,910 --> 00:01:19,680 and um also been noting how well the 8 00:01:25,270 --> 00:01:21,920 science is going with wake shield 9 00:01:27,030 --> 00:01:25,280 and we'd like to offer that um 10 00:01:28,710 --> 00:01:27,040 during the previous five days of this 11 00:01:29,590 --> 00:01:28,720 fight we've been getting excellent rest 12 00:01:33,990 --> 00:01:29,600 and 13 00:01:35,670 --> 00:01:34,000 towards the end of the day 14 00:01:37,749 --> 00:01:35,680 if it comes down to it and we do need to 15 00:01:40,710 --> 00:01:37,759 rendezvous with wake shield today the 16 00:01:42,550 --> 00:01:40,720 crew is ready and willing to stay up 17 00:01:44,630 --> 00:01:42,560 almost as late as you'd like 18 00:01:45,830 --> 00:01:44,640 to make that happen as late as possible 19 00:01:47,590 --> 00:01:45,840 so that 20 00:01:51,429 --> 00:01:47,600 wakes you can get more of its mission 21 00:01:56,789 --> 00:01:54,230 that's that's super taco and we'll uh 22 00:01:59,350 --> 00:01:56,799 we'll throw that into the equation um 23 00:02:02,630 --> 00:01:59,360 right now we're we're developing uh some 24 00:02:05,109 --> 00:02:02,640 criteria uh that will apply that we will 25 00:02:05,990 --> 00:02:05,119 apply at around the time of the nc 11 26 00:02:07,990 --> 00:02:06,000 burn 27 00:02:09,109 --> 00:02:08,000 and basically if it just gives us 28 00:02:10,550 --> 00:02:09,119 confidence 29 00:02:16,869 --> 00:02:10,560 that 30 00:02:18,710 --> 00:02:16,879 distance between wake shield and spas 31 00:02:20,630 --> 00:02:18,720 that's going to be 32 00:02:22,390 --> 00:02:20,640 be our desire to 33 00:02:23,910 --> 00:02:22,400 do exactly what uh what you said and 34 00:02:26,949 --> 00:02:23,920 let's try to get all the wake shield 35 00:02:31,270 --> 00:02:28,790 yeah we certainly hope we can do the 36 00:02:33,190 --> 00:02:31,280 rendezvous on schedule tomorrow um just 37 00:02:35,190 --> 00:02:33,200 wanted to let you know we if it has to 38 00:02:37,589 --> 00:02:35,200 be today we can do it as late today as 39 00:02:39,910 --> 00:02:37,599 as possible to make it better 40 00:02:40,949 --> 00:02:39,920 and uh pass our regards on to mr britt's 41 00:02:43,750 --> 00:02:40,959 hope he's 42 00:03:19,430 --> 00:02:43,760 having a good time doing this analysis 43 00:03:25,589 --> 00:03:21,589 columbia houston with some words on the 44 00:03:25,599 --> 00:03:33,270 ready to copy mark 45 00:03:39,910 --> 00:03:36,869 yes taco as you know fido has been 46 00:03:43,430 --> 00:03:39,920 taking in some c-band radar tracking 47 00:03:44,949 --> 00:03:43,440 data on spas for the last few revs 48 00:03:47,350 --> 00:03:44,959 and the 49 00:03:49,430 --> 00:03:47,360 the news is encouraging the separation 50 00:03:53,990 --> 00:03:49,440 appears to be growing uh 51 00:03:57,589 --> 00:03:54,000 for the range at ti at the nominal ti 52 00:04:01,670 --> 00:03:57,599 it's now 12.1 if we assume a worst case 53 00:04:04,710 --> 00:04:01,680 k con of 1.1 so right now it looks as 54 00:04:06,789 --> 00:04:04,720 though we're going to be doing a nominal 55 00:04:09,429 --> 00:04:06,799 retrieve for wake shield 56 00:04:10,550 --> 00:04:09,439 the only question in our mind is whether 57 00:04:14,470 --> 00:04:10,560 or not 58 00:04:16,390 --> 00:04:14,480 we'll continue to keep spas in mind drag 59 00:04:19,030 --> 00:04:16,400 attitude for a little while longer that 60 00:04:21,349 --> 00:04:19,040 is under discussion at this point 61 00:04:25,110 --> 00:04:21,359 with respect to wake shield retrieve we 62 00:04:28,550 --> 00:04:25,120 will be retrieving it two orbits early 63 00:04:33,590 --> 00:04:28,560 and we will be going with the eight mile 64 00:04:38,310 --> 00:04:36,230 okay uh we copy all the words on the big 65 00:04:39,830 --> 00:04:38,320 picture sure hope it works out that way 66 00:04:41,270 --> 00:04:39,840 and that we can keep 67 00:04:43,110 --> 00:04:41,280 both satellites pumping out their 68 00:04:45,990 --> 00:04:43,120 science 69 00:05:06,469 --> 00:04:46,000 with the two revs early 70 00:05:10,390 --> 00:05:08,550 in columbia for taco 71 00:05:12,469 --> 00:05:10,400 that's affirmative the plan is for you 72 00:05:17,350 --> 00:05:12,479 to go to bed an hour earlier and to get 73 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:22,469 okay we understand 74 00:05:26,550 --> 00:05:24,550 we'll start with you dr musgrave how 75 00:05:36,710 --> 00:05:26,560 serious are those particle dings in the 76 00:05:41,029 --> 00:05:39,830 jim they are very very small 77 00:05:42,150 --> 00:05:41,039 hits 78 00:05:44,070 --> 00:05:42,160 i uh 79 00:05:47,749 --> 00:05:44,080 would estimate uh 80 00:05:49,510 --> 00:05:47,759 oh no more than uh depth of 1 32nd of an 81 00:05:50,629 --> 00:05:49,520 inch and that's just of course in the 82 00:05:58,710 --> 00:05:50,639 outer pane 83 00:06:03,430 --> 00:06:00,710 i understand you almost had a super ding 84 00:06:05,590 --> 00:06:03,440 with that 4 600 pound super conductor 85 00:06:07,670 --> 00:06:05,600 growing satellite what happened was that 86 00:06:11,189 --> 00:06:07,680 a case of a thruster malfunctioning or 87 00:06:16,870 --> 00:06:13,270 no what really happened was when we 88 00:06:18,790 --> 00:06:16,880 released the wake shield we waited uh 89 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:18,800 at least a minute to verify that its 90 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:20,400 attitude control system was functioning 91 00:06:23,990 --> 00:06:22,240 normally and that took a little bit 92 00:06:25,830 --> 00:06:24,000 longer than expected to verify that the 93 00:06:28,629 --> 00:06:25,840 wake shield was controlling its attitude 94 00:06:30,790 --> 00:06:28,639 properly and while we were waiting uh it 95 00:06:32,230 --> 00:06:30,800 was drifting ever so slightly towards us 96 00:06:33,270 --> 00:06:32,240 probably due to 97 00:06:34,390 --> 00:06:33,280 a small 98 00:06:36,710 --> 00:06:34,400 impulse 99 00:06:38,469 --> 00:06:36,720 and part of when we moved the robot arm 100 00:06:40,230 --> 00:06:38,479 away from the satellite and so that 101 00:06:42,469 --> 00:06:40,240 small closure rate if we allowed it to 102 00:06:43,749 --> 00:06:42,479 drift for minutes would have carried it 103 00:06:45,029 --> 00:06:43,759 closer to the columbia than we were 104 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:45,039 comfortable with 105 00:06:49,430 --> 00:06:47,440 but in the event we started the wake 106 00:06:51,350 --> 00:06:49,440 shield zone thruster and that carried a 107 00:06:52,790 --> 00:06:51,360 clear of our cockpit and of course at 108 00:06:54,550 --> 00:06:52,800 any time we could have moved columbia 109 00:06:56,390 --> 00:06:54,560 out of the way had we thought there was 110 00:06:57,670 --> 00:06:56,400 a real collision hazard but we didn't 111 00:06:58,469 --> 00:06:57,680 want to disturb 112 00:07:00,309 --> 00:06:58,479 the 113 00:07:01,830 --> 00:07:00,319 contamination free 114 00:07:03,670 --> 00:07:01,840 wake side of the satellite which was 115 00:07:05,430 --> 00:07:03,680 going to conduct our science over the 116 00:07:07,510 --> 00:07:05,440 next few days so we tried to hold off 117 00:07:09,029 --> 00:07:07,520 any thruster firings and that's what we 118 00:07:10,950 --> 00:07:09,039 were able to do was let it drift off 119 00:07:12,150 --> 00:07:10,960 without any movement by the columbia at 120 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:12,160 all 121 00:07:16,469 --> 00:07:14,400 if my congressman had his way we would 122 00:07:17,909 --> 00:07:16,479 have no more manned space flight what 123 00:07:20,230 --> 00:07:17,919 are some of the latest and greatest 124 00:07:25,909 --> 00:07:20,240 benefits that i can educate him about to 125 00:07:29,670 --> 00:07:27,589 well i like to talk about the wake 126 00:07:32,469 --> 00:07:29,680 shield facility that's trailing us now 127 00:07:35,909 --> 00:07:32,479 by about 20 nautical miles it's our uh 128 00:07:38,230 --> 00:07:35,919 prototype chip manufacturing facility 129 00:07:39,749 --> 00:07:38,240 maybe it's the wave of things to come in 130 00:07:42,390 --> 00:07:39,759 space where we'll actually use the 131 00:07:44,070 --> 00:07:42,400 resources in space like the pure vacuum 132 00:07:46,150 --> 00:07:44,080 generated by the wick shield to 133 00:07:48,629 --> 00:07:46,160 manufacture either high quality 134 00:07:50,550 --> 00:07:48,639 electronic components like this example 135 00:07:52,710 --> 00:07:50,560 or some other 136 00:07:55,110 --> 00:07:52,720 manufactured product like biomedical 137 00:07:57,749 --> 00:07:55,120 supplies medicines or pharmaceuticals 138 00:07:59,749 --> 00:07:57,759 that would actually directly be sold on 139 00:08:02,309 --> 00:07:59,759 earth and we'd actually produce them in 140 00:08:04,070 --> 00:08:02,319 space make money up there make a profit 141 00:08:06,230 --> 00:08:04,080 and that of course that would expand our 142 00:08:08,629 --> 00:08:06,240 activity in space so this is the way to 143 00:08:11,110 --> 00:08:08,639 go in space exploration is to find a way 144 00:08:13,029 --> 00:08:11,120 to use the spaces space's own resources 145 00:08:14,629 --> 00:08:13,039 to benefit us back on earth and that's 146 00:08:16,629 --> 00:08:14,639 the first step that we're taking here 147 00:08:18,629 --> 00:08:16,639 with the wakefield experiment but uh 148 00:08:21,189 --> 00:08:18,639 does ham radio still play a part in 149 00:08:23,430 --> 00:08:21,199 emissions and if so is it um 150 00:08:31,670 --> 00:08:23,440 a vital part or is it just a kind of a 151 00:08:37,190 --> 00:08:33,829 i had the ham radio 1 152 00:08:38,070 --> 00:08:37,200 51 f which was close to 11 or 12 years 153 00:08:39,670 --> 00:08:38,080 ago 154 00:08:42,070 --> 00:08:39,680 i think it plays on two roles it 155 00:08:43,430 --> 00:08:42,080 communicates what space is all about it 156 00:08:45,829 --> 00:08:43,440 lets people 157 00:08:47,829 --> 00:08:45,839 vicariously live with his face it lets 158 00:08:49,910 --> 00:08:47,839 people come on board with us 159 00:08:51,430 --> 00:08:49,920 it's also a very valid way of 160 00:08:52,790 --> 00:08:51,440 communications 161 00:08:55,110 --> 00:08:52,800 uh there are times when i've been a 162 00:08:57,269 --> 00:08:55,120 capsule communicator in mission control 163 00:08:59,670 --> 00:08:57,279 and we had long losses from the 164 00:09:01,350 --> 00:08:59,680 satellite we communicate with and we 165 00:09:04,230 --> 00:09:01,360 have actually gone up to the shuttle 166 00:09:06,870 --> 00:09:04,240 through a ham radio operator i think 167 00:09:09,190 --> 00:09:06,880 it's an integral part of the electronic 168 00:09:11,350 --> 00:09:09,200 net that we are building you can see the 169 00:09:12,949 --> 00:09:11,360 computers and you can see uh the 170 00:09:14,630 --> 00:09:12,959 camcorders which are bringing you 171 00:09:17,350 --> 00:09:14,640 information maybe in the background you 172 00:09:19,829 --> 00:09:17,360 can see all the wires i think ham radio 173 00:09:22,230 --> 00:09:19,839 is part of the integral information that 174 00:09:24,870 --> 00:09:22,240 which we are bringing into the shuttle 175 00:09:28,949 --> 00:09:24,880 which uh and it's a way of bringing a 25 176 00:09:31,350 --> 00:09:28,959 year old technology into this century 177 00:09:33,269 --> 00:09:31,360 senator and former astronaut john glenn 178 00:09:35,430 --> 00:09:33,279 has volunteered to do geriatric 179 00:09:37,990 --> 00:09:35,440 experiments in space although you're at 180 00:09:39,750 --> 00:09:38,000 61 not quite up to mr glenn's age would 181 00:09:42,710 --> 00:09:39,760 you be ever interested in that dr 182 00:09:46,150 --> 00:09:44,310 well of course they're doing one on me 183 00:09:48,389 --> 00:09:46,160 right now 184 00:09:49,670 --> 00:09:48,399 what i wanted to ask do you do any type 185 00:09:52,389 --> 00:09:49,680 of 186 00:09:54,230 --> 00:09:52,399 simulations or experiments on the ground 187 00:09:55,829 --> 00:09:54,240 or what possibly could go wrong or do 188 00:09:59,990 --> 00:09:55,839 you just keep your focus on your 189 00:10:04,070 --> 00:10:02,070 a good question we spent 190 00:10:06,710 --> 00:10:04,080 about nine months training for this 191 00:10:08,389 --> 00:10:06,720 flight all five of us on the crew and we 192 00:10:10,470 --> 00:10:08,399 trained intensively over the last few 193 00:10:12,470 --> 00:10:10,480 months especially to handle any kind of 194 00:10:13,829 --> 00:10:12,480 emergency especially during the critical 195 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:13,839 phases of launch 196 00:10:17,829 --> 00:10:16,000 and entry and we often joke once we 197 00:10:20,150 --> 00:10:17,839 arrive in space when things are going so 198 00:10:22,069 --> 00:10:20,160 well as they are on sts-80 here that a 199 00:10:24,790 --> 00:10:22,079 lot of our emergency procedures training 200 00:10:26,150 --> 00:10:24,800 seems to have been wasted because we 201 00:10:27,990 --> 00:10:26,160 arrive in space here and never have to 202 00:10:30,470 --> 00:10:28,000 use all that training that we've uh 203 00:10:32,870 --> 00:10:30,480 spent so many weeks uh acquiring but 204 00:10:34,230 --> 00:10:32,880 really uh that's a necessary uh part of 205 00:10:36,389 --> 00:10:34,240 training for space flight you've got to 206 00:10:38,310 --> 00:10:36,399 be ready just in case something does go 207 00:10:39,990 --> 00:10:38,320 wrong and we view it as an investment in 208 00:10:42,310 --> 00:10:40,000 our own safety and our own success on 209 00:10:44,870 --> 00:10:42,320 this mission i was calling for uh ken 210 00:10:46,630 --> 00:10:44,880 cockrell my brother oh my goodness this 211 00:10:47,910 --> 00:10:46,640 is ken cockrell's brother yeah this is 212 00:10:49,829 --> 00:10:47,920 phil 213 00:10:52,310 --> 00:10:49,839 i believe they selected 214 00:10:53,910 --> 00:10:52,320 uh dr jones and dr musgrave to be a part 215 00:10:57,190 --> 00:10:53,920 of this but i suspect they could relay a 216 00:10:59,269 --> 00:10:57,200 message okay oh my what do we have here 217 00:11:03,030 --> 00:10:59,279 i see on the screen here another person 218 00:11:06,710 --> 00:11:04,710 hi phillip i'm not part of this event 219 00:11:08,230 --> 00:11:06,720 but uh go ahead with your questions i 220 00:11:09,509 --> 00:11:08,240 just heard about it on the radio the 221 00:11:10,949 --> 00:11:09,519 other day and i thought well i'd give it 222 00:11:12,790 --> 00:11:10,959 a shot and i didn't have a question i 223 00:11:15,430 --> 00:11:12,800 just wanted to relay what uh miriam 224 00:11:16,870 --> 00:11:15,440 thought of the launch 225 00:11:18,470 --> 00:11:16,880 after you had 226 00:11:20,870 --> 00:11:18,480 after about two minutes it passed we 227 00:11:22,150 --> 00:11:20,880 asked her what she thought and in her 228 00:11:27,190 --> 00:11:22,160 four-year-old 229 00:11:31,990 --> 00:11:29,670 gosh i hope she's right 230 00:11:34,550 --> 00:11:32,000 i do too i did have one question for you 231 00:11:36,550 --> 00:11:34,560 though okay go ahead i wanted to know if 232 00:11:41,750 --> 00:11:36,560 uh just before launch if you roll down 233 00:11:52,150 --> 00:11:43,590 thanks phillip and no 234 00:11:56,310 --> 00:11:53,030 we've 235 00:11:57,670 --> 00:11:56,320 set up a cockpit here we're doing now 236 00:11:59,269 --> 00:11:57,680 supporting our 237 00:12:04,389 --> 00:11:59,279 lake shield ops 238 00:12:04,399 --> 00:12:08,470 see down here to right on 239 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,310 up here 240 00:12:16,389 --> 00:12:14,150 now this is our 241 00:12:17,829 --> 00:12:16,399 payload 1 up here of course the command 242 00:12:19,910 --> 00:12:17,839 pgs 243 00:12:23,110 --> 00:12:19,920 most of the time we run the event log on 244 00:12:26,069 --> 00:12:23,120 here so we can follow the sequences 245 00:12:28,550 --> 00:12:26,079 command click reference cards up here 246 00:12:31,670 --> 00:12:28,560 the ops concept for signs over here got 247 00:12:34,310 --> 00:12:31,680 a couple blocks in here 248 00:12:37,350 --> 00:12:34,320 the computer down here is uh 249 00:12:39,509 --> 00:12:37,360 the monitor pgsc 250 00:12:41,990 --> 00:12:39,519 back in here i've got all the updates 251 00:12:45,190 --> 00:12:42,000 that came up on the 252 00:12:46,710 --> 00:12:45,200 tips and i got my payload system 253 00:12:48,629 --> 00:12:46,720 back here 254 00:12:53,509 --> 00:12:48,639 that's the way uh columbia's been 255 00:12:59,269 --> 00:12:56,230 and mr elowitz asks how will the orpheus 256 00:13:01,430 --> 00:12:59,279 spies uv observatory complement other 257 00:13:04,150 --> 00:13:01,440 ultraviolet observatories 258 00:13:07,509 --> 00:13:04,160 like fuse and euve 259 00:13:09,509 --> 00:13:07,519 these are other satellites that uh 260 00:13:10,629 --> 00:13:09,519 look at stars and 261 00:13:12,230 --> 00:13:10,639 other 262 00:13:14,150 --> 00:13:12,240 sources of radiation in the universe 263 00:13:15,509 --> 00:13:14,160 that only radiate mainly in the 264 00:13:17,030 --> 00:13:15,519 ultraviolet 265 00:13:19,350 --> 00:13:17,040 and 266 00:13:22,150 --> 00:13:19,360 we can we can't see this radiation down 267 00:13:24,150 --> 00:13:22,160 on earth's surface at most observatories 268 00:13:25,750 --> 00:13:24,160 that we have already built there because 269 00:13:27,350 --> 00:13:25,760 of the earth's atmosphere and the ozone 270 00:13:29,509 --> 00:13:27,360 layer absorbing that ultraviolet light 271 00:13:31,990 --> 00:13:29,519 so we have to build satellites 272 00:13:34,870 --> 00:13:32,000 like the two that mr elliott's mentioned 273 00:13:36,389 --> 00:13:34,880 and orpheus and for example the hubble 274 00:13:39,030 --> 00:13:36,399 space telescope to go above the 275 00:13:41,670 --> 00:13:39,040 atmosphere to look at ultraviolet light 276 00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:41,680 and the advantage that orpheus spas has 277 00:13:44,949 --> 00:13:44,000 in looking at ultraviolet light is that 278 00:13:47,430 --> 00:13:44,959 it has 279 00:13:48,949 --> 00:13:47,440 a wavelength range or a sensitivity to 280 00:13:51,110 --> 00:13:48,959 the radiation coming from these 281 00:13:53,829 --> 00:13:51,120 interesting objects like black holes and 282 00:13:56,150 --> 00:13:53,839 white dwarf stars that's farther into 283 00:13:57,990 --> 00:13:56,160 the infrared uh i'm sorry into the 284 00:13:59,430 --> 00:13:58,000 ultraviolet region 285 00:14:01,189 --> 00:13:59,440 than 286 00:14:03,509 --> 00:14:01,199 observatories like the hubble have for 287 00:14:05,509 --> 00:14:03,519 example so we can see more energetic 288 00:14:07,750 --> 00:14:05,519 radiation from higher temperature 289 00:14:10,550 --> 00:14:07,760 objects that way and also the 290 00:14:11,829 --> 00:14:10,560 instruments on ortho spas have a finer 291 00:14:13,430 --> 00:14:11,839 resolution in other words the 292 00:14:14,870 --> 00:14:13,440 fingerprint of the object they're 293 00:14:18,790 --> 00:14:14,880 looking at an ultraviolet light the 294 00:14:20,949 --> 00:14:18,800 spectrum is much more well defined in 295 00:14:23,350 --> 00:14:20,959 these sensitive instruments on orpheus 296 00:14:25,990 --> 00:14:23,360 we can see more details in that spectrum 297 00:14:27,430 --> 00:14:26,000 or fingerprint and thus understand the 298 00:14:29,269 --> 00:14:27,440 physics and the composition of the 299 00:14:30,949 --> 00:14:29,279 object that we're looking at thanks for 300 00:14:33,189 --> 00:14:30,959 your question 301 00:14:35,590 --> 00:14:33,199 dave also had another question and that 302 00:14:37,269 --> 00:14:35,600 was what role will the space station's 303 00:14:39,509 --> 00:14:37,279 robot r play in the assembly of the 304 00:14:42,949 --> 00:14:39,519 international space station and at what 305 00:14:45,590 --> 00:14:42,959 stage will they be operational 306 00:14:47,430 --> 00:14:45,600 well dave um the rms is going to play a 307 00:14:50,550 --> 00:14:47,440 critical role in assembling the space 308 00:14:52,230 --> 00:14:50,560 station in fact we um hope to fly the 309 00:14:54,389 --> 00:14:52,240 first space station flight the end of 310 00:14:56,710 --> 00:14:54,399 next year in which we will attach the 311 00:14:59,829 --> 00:14:56,720 fgb to the node 312 00:15:01,670 --> 00:14:59,839 on flight assembly flight 2a thank you